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2000 years and very little change in the mentality of some Christians.
This man's art was depicting Dionysus. He used him as a metaphor for his fight against alcoholism.
The man's art was good enough to be posted in a public square.
Complaints by people who didn't know who Dionysus was and that he looked "Satanic" and thus was not suitable for public viewing made the city take the painting down. At least one man in the article prefers to stay ignorant as far as ancient Greek religion is concerned and use his ignorance as religious leverage.
Mind you, had anyone painted a Jesus on the cross in their artwork, no one would have complained.
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Interestingly enough cathedrals all have gargoyles, chimeras and various demon-like carvings on them!
I remember in 2015 the crappy treatment a very nice Wiccan- Debora Maynard received at the Iowa statehouse when she was invited to do the morning invocation, they always have some Catholic type priest do it, but this time Deborah was invited by a Senator, many of those who were there stood with their BACKS towards her, some even were reciting counter-prayers!
" Republican state Rep. Rob Taylor and some of his colleagues found Maynard’s presence so offensive that they launched a silent protest.
Taylor explained to KCRG that he prayed and asked, “What would Jesus do?” In the end, he decided to “be in the presence of a prayer, but peacefully protest” by turning his back. Other lawmakers refused to attend Thursday’s opening ceremonies."
"Taylor admitted to KCRG that he had not turned his back during Islamic and Jewish prayers."
Here's the video; https://www.rawstory.com/2015/04/lawmaker-asks-what-would-jesus-do-...
The hypocritical arrogance that some of these Christians display is beyond belief.
I know! and at the same time they yammer on demanding THEY be respected and catered to oe whine about their beliefs being trodden on. I remember that bakery that refuse to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple and the huge row and whine about how their beliefs were being subverted, forget how as a business open to the public at large like a bakery or book store would be you don't get to decide WHICH customers you will serve and which you won't based on their color, gender, beliefs or anything of the sort.
Another one comes to mind how a christian went into the public library in Orange City Iowa, checked out several gay related books and then did a youtube video BURNING the books! he refused to pay for the public property he destroyed but the library went after him, and several people started gofundme type fund raisers to get funds to replace the books, the funds came to thousands of dollars supporting the library.
That was when I joined many others in doing a youtube video burning a bible in counter-protest. Two can play that book burning game! at least my book was purchased used cheap on Ebay, I didn't go to a public library and destroy other people's property.
Can you imagine of those same senators who were so rude to Ms Maynard's invocation speech had done that to a Rabii or a Baptist priest what outrage there would have been and demands for apologies or even stepping down as senators? but because Maynard was a PAGAN priestess it appeared perfectly acceptable in the state house for this rudeness, and even the house speaker did not step in like he SHOULD HAVE!
You said it, Kelly.
Of course if one wants to mix art in with this, there is the several instances that come to mind over how christians became violent towards an art gallery and threatened the staff and more, and then destroyed the artwork, I'd have to find the articles to get the details. There was also the violent row over "pissed christ" by another artist.
There's also this;
"African evangelists destroy artifacts By - The Washington Times - Thursday, September 6, 2007
Born to a family of traditional priests, Ibe Nwigwe converted to Christianity as a boy. Under the sway of born-again fervor as a man, he gathered the paraphernalia of ancestral worship — a centuries-old stool, a metal staff with a wooden handle and the carved figure of a god — and burned them as his pastor watched. “I had experienced a series of misfortunes and my pastor told me it was because I had not completely broken the covenant with my ancestral idols.
Generations ago, European colonists and Christian missionaries looted Africa’s ancient treasures. Now, Pentecostal Christian evangelists — most of them Africans — are helping wipe out remaining traces of how Africans once worked, played and prayed.
As poverty deepened in Nigeria from the mid-1980s, Pentecostal Christian church membership surged. The new faithful found comfort in preachers like evangelist Uma Ukpai, who promised that material success was next to godliness. He has boasted of overseeing the destruction of more than 100 shrines in one district in December 2005 alone.
The old gods are linked to the devil, and preachers are urging their rejection and their destruction. "
As an aside on the about, the churches there are killing children accused of being posessed even today, I have an article on that I can find tonight.
Then there's this intolerance meme too;
One Catholic Priest Destroyed the Entire Mayan Written Language
The New York Times described the decipherment of the Maya hieroglyphs as "one of the great stories of twentieth century scientific discovery." Tragically, this decipherment was only necessary because of a one-man Spanish Inquisition, a deliberate, decades-long campaign by a single Catholic priest to destroy the Mayan language and culture. The priest, Diego de Landa, wiped out all knowledge of the written language, and nearly destroyed the spoken language too.
Diego de Landa's one-man inquisition perfectly illustrates the power of the Intolerance Meme, an idea that evolved in the Jewish religion a few centuries before the birth of Jesus, and was taken up with a vengeance by Christians in the third and fourth centuries AD. The Intolerance Meme declares that not only is Yahweh the only god, but in addition, anyone who worships other gods is committing a sin. The Intolerance Meme justifies all sorts of atrocities in Yahweh's name: Murder, slavery, forced conversion, suppression and destruction of other religions, racism, and many other immoral acts.
The Spanish colonization entailed forced labor and mandatory conversion to Christianity. Those Maya who refused to give up their pantheistic religious practices were arrested and tortured for heresy. Mayan artifacts were actively destroyed and all but a few of their sacred texts burnt. "
And then just the other day I read an article about how the christians in I think it was in China were whining about THEIR alters and things being vandalized and how bad they had it having to hide their religion! at least they didnt get tortured and killed as was done to so many others by their religion!
African Children Denounced As "Witches" By Christian Pastors
AP By KATHARINE HOURELD
EKET, Nigeria — The nine-year-old boy lay on a bloodstained hospital sheet crawling with ants, staring blindly at the wall.
His family pastor had accused him of being a witch, and his father then tried to force acid down his throat as an exorcism. It spilled as he struggled, burning away his face and eyes. The emaciated boy barely had strength left to whisper the name of the church that had denounced him – Mount Zion Lighthouse.
A month later, he died.
Nwanaokwo Edet was one of an increasing number of children in Africa accused of witchcraft by pastors and then tortured or killed, often by family members. Pastors were involved in half of 200 cases of "witch children" reviewed by the AP, and 13 churches were named in the case files.
Some of the churches involved are renegade local branches of international franchises. Their parishioners take literally the Biblical exhortation, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."
"It is an outrage what they are allowing to take place in the name of Christianity," said Gary Foxcroft, head of nonprofit Stepping Stones Nigeria.
For their part, the families are often extremely poor, and sometimes even relieved to have one less mouth to feed. Poverty, conflict and poor education lay the foundation for accusations, which are then triggered by the death of a relative, the loss of a job or the denunciation of a pastor on the make, said Martin Dawes, a spokesman for the United Nations Children's Fund.
"When communities come under pressure, they look for scapegoats," he said. "It plays into traditional beliefs that someone is responsible for a negative change ... and children are defenseless."
Campaigners against the practice say around 15,000 children have been accused in two of Nigeria's 36 states over the past decade and around 1,000 have been murdered. In the past month alone, three Nigerian children accused of witchcraft were killed and another three were set on fire.
Nigeria is one of the heartlands of abuse, but hardly the only one: the United Nations Children's Fund says tens of thousands of children have been targeted throughout Africa.
Church signs sprout around every twist of the road snaking through the jungle between Uyo, the capital of the southern Akwa Ibom state where Nwanaokwo lay, and Eket, home to many more rejected "witch children." Churches outnumber schools, clinics and banks put together. Many promise to solve parishioner's material worries as well as spiritual ones – eight out of ten Nigerians struggle by on less than $2 a day.
"Poverty must catch fire," insists the Born 2 Rule Crusade on one of Uyo's main streets.
"Where little shots become big shots in a short time," promises the Winner's Chapel down the road.
"Pray your way to riches," advises Embassy of Christ a few blocks away.
It's hard for churches to carve out a congregation with so much competition. So some pastors establish their credentials by accusing children of witchcraft.
Nwanaokwo said he knew the pastor who accused him only as Pastor King. Mount Zion Lighthouse in Nigeria at first confirmed that a Pastor King worked for them, then denied that they knew any such person.
Bishop A.D. Ayakndue, the head of the church in Nigeria, said pastors were encouraged to pray about witchcraft, but not to abuse children.
"We pray over that problem (of witchcraft) very powerfully," he said. "But we can never hurt a child."
The Nigerian church is a branch of a Californian church by the same name. But the California church says it lost touch with its Nigerian offshoots several years ago.
"I had no idea," said church elder Carrie King by phone from Tracy, Calif. "I knew people believed in witchcraft over there but we believe in the power of prayer, not physically harming people."
The Mount Zion Lighthouse – also named by three other families as the accuser of their children – is part of the powerful Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria. The Fellowship's president, Ayo Oritsejafor, said the Fellowship was the fastest-growing religious group in Nigeria, with more than 30 million members.
"We have grown so much in the past few years we cannot keep an eye on everybody," he explained.
But Foxcroft, the head of Stepping Stones, said if the organization was able to collect membership fees, it could also police its members better. He had already written to the organization twice to alert it to the abuse, he said. He suggested the fellowship ask members to sign forms denouncing abuse or hold meetings to educate pastors about the new child rights law in the state of Akwa Ibom, which makes it illegal to denounce children as witches. Similar laws and education were needed in other states, he said.
Sam Itauma of the Children's Rights and Rehabilitation Network said it is the most vulnerable children – the orphaned, sick, disabled or poor – who are most often denounced. In Nwanaokwo's case, his poor father and dead mother made him an easy target.
"Even churches who didn't use to 'find' child witches are being forced into it by the competition," said Itauma. "They are seen as spiritually powerful because they can detect witchcraft and the parents may even pay them money for an exorcism."
That's what Margaret Eyekang did when her 8-year-old daughter Abigail was accused by a "prophet" from the Apostolic Church, because the girl liked to sleep outside on hot nights – interpreted as meaning she might be flying off to join a coven. A series of exorcisms cost Eyekang eight months' wages, or US$270. The payments bankrupted her.
Neighbors also attacked her daughter.
"They beat her with sticks and asked me why I was bringing them a witch child," she said. A relative offered Eyekang floor space but Abigail was not welcome and had to sleep in the streets.
Members of two other families said pastors from the Apostolic Church had accused their children of witchcraft, but asked not to be named for fear of retaliation.
The Nigeria Apostolic Church refused repeated requests made by phone, e-mail and in person for comment.
Those were supposed to represent the 12 apustules as I call them!
I think that's apostates, but we'll call it "The Headless Horsemen"
The Intolerance Meme declares that not only is Yahweh the only god, but in addition, anyone who worships other gods is committing a sin.
This. This very black evil began because the early Christians knew pagan believers had experienced their gods answering their prayers and doing miracles for them and they weren't going to convince them otherwise.
So the Christians demonized them.
"Oh, yeah, Bacchus changed water into wine, but he wasn't a god, he was a demon and you fell for it!"
The bible actually states that if anyone tries to talk you out of the TRUE belief, you shouldn't listen to them. 2 John 10-11
The belief that the world is evil because people aren't believers like them is seriously dangerous and deadly. Your refusal to convert or believe as they do instantly allies you with their sworn enemy, the Devil. YOU are what's wrong with the world. They feel the world would be a paradise if you would JUST.CONVERT. And if you don't, they feel like it's perfectly OK to kill you off, after all, you're evil and won't change and the world will continue to be evil if you continue to exist and resist.
The people with this psychotic belief can't be reasoned with, aren't tolerant and do not respect other beliefs.
Anyone who believes this should instantly be put on government Watch Lists as possibly murderous cult members.
"The belief that the world is evil because people aren't believers like them is seriously dangerous and deadly. Your refusal to convert or believe as they do instantly allies you with their sworn enemy, the Devil. YOU are what's wrong with the world. They feel the world would be a paradise if you would JUST.CONVERT. And if you don't, they feel like it's perfectly OK to kill you off,"
That is exactly where the problem is, and this meme has caused countless deaths across the globe for centuries. The PilGRIMS and the white settlers came into this land knowing full well it was already inhabited by the Native American Indians who were viewed as "godless subhuman savages" that and their book gave them free license to exploit, torture or KILL, especially if they refused to give up THEIR beliefs and convert.
This was also extended to blacks in Africa, eskimos, and anyone else.
People today like to say things such as "oh terrible, but that was ____ years ago in the past" as if that's an excuse, those people who were murdered are still dead and unless they can restore them back to life again to rectify that past it doesn't matter if it was "years ago" many of the same things still go on today, including killing children as "posessed demons" in Africa.
I have a piece about Thanksgiving that is very good that sums up a few things from the Indian's point of view- they consider the day a day of mourning!
Deconstructing the Myths of The First Thanksgiving
by Judy Dow (Abenaki) and Beverly Slapin
What is it about the story of The First Thanksgiving that makes it essential to be taught in virtually every grade from preschool through high school? What is it about the story that is so seductive? Why has it become an annual elementary school tradition to hold Thanksgiving pageants, with young children dressing up in paper-bag costumes and feather-duster headdresses and marching around the schoolyard? Why is it seen as necessary for fake pilgrims and fake Indians (portrayed by real children, many of whom are Indian) to sit down every year to a fake feast, acting out fake scenarios and reciting fake dialogue about friendship? And why do teachers all over the country continue (for the most part, unknowingly) to perpetuate this myth year after year after year?
Myth #3: The colonists came seeking freedom of religion in a new land.
Fact: The colonists were not just innocent refugees from religious persecution. By 1620, hundreds of Native people had already been to England and back, most as captives; so the Plymouth colonists knew full well that the land they were settling on was inhabited. Nevertheless, their belief system taught them that any land that was unimproved was wild and theirs for the taking; that the people who lived there were roving heathens with no right to the land. Both the Separatists and Puritans were rigid fundamentalists who came here fully intending to take the land away from its Native inhabitants and establish a new nation, their Holy Kingdom. The Plymouth colonists were never concerned with freedom of religion for anyone but themselves.
Myth #11: Thanksgiving is a happy time.
Fact: For many Indian people, Thanksgiving is a time of mourning, of remembering how a gift of generosity was rewarded by theft of land and seed corn, extermination of many from disease and gun, and near total destruction of many more from forced assimilation. As currently celebrated in this country, Thanksgiving is a bitter reminder of 500 years of betrayal returned for friendship.
Myth #10: The Pilgrims and Indians became great friends.
Fact: A mere generation later, the balance of power had shifted so enormously and the theft of land by the European settlers had become so egregious that the Wampanoag were forced into battle. In 1637, English soldiers massacred some 700 Pequot men, women and children at Mystic Fort, burning many of them alive in their homes and shooting those who fled. The colony of Connecticut and Massachusetts Bay Colony observed a day of thanksgiving commemorating the massacre. By 1675, there were some 50,000 colonists in the place they had named New England. That year, Metacom, a son of Massasoit, one of the first whose generosity had saved the lives of the starving settlers, led a rebellion against them. By the end of the conflict known as King Philips War, most of the Indian peoples of the Northeast region had been either completely wiped out, sold into slavery, or had fled for safety into Canada. Shortly after Metacoms death, Plymouth Colony declared a day of thanksgiving for the English victory over the Indians.
The complete story is here;