Ok so some of you may remember a post I did earlier on about coming out to my "friends" about being pagan, well here is round two lol!


I gave them all some time and space to kinda wrap there minds around the fact that I am a Pagan, and to decide how they feel about it. I didn't try to call or email or anything until yesterday. Well as of 6pm oklahoma time only one has emailed me back. And it was such a moveing note I thought I would share it. (this was from the one who had her kid answer the phone when i called and told them to tell me she was not home)



"But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, Who is unseen. Then your Father, Who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him." (Matthew 6:6-8 NIV)


"If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector." (Matthew 18:15-17 NIV)


"He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?" (Matthew 5:45-47 NIV)


Now is that not just the ... well words dont come to mind to describe this.

Hope you all dont mind the vent.

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Job 24:25, "...who will make me a liar, and make my speech nothing worth?"

LUK 7:9 When Jesus heard this, he was amazed at him, and turning to the
crowd following him, he said, "I tell you, I have not found such great
faith even in Israel."

17:6 He replied, "If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can
say to this mulberry tree, 'Be uprooted and planted in the sea,' and it
will obey you.

Micah 3:11 [NIV] Her leaders judge for a bribe, her priests teach for a price, and her prophets tell fortunes for money. Yet they lean upon the LORD and say, "Is not the LORD among us? No disaster will come upon us."

I would send her an email telling her point blank, that you were honest with her despite the fact that she could not be honest with you, and even forced her children into lying to you also. I would also tell her that here are several verses that point out why you have chosen your path, and why you chosen not to walk the Christian path. I would tell also tell her that you had hoped that you would be able to remain friends because you love her and that she will hold a place dear in your heart but that if she is unable to remain your friend that while you regret it, you understand and that you will hold out hope that someday her heart will understand true brotherly love.

Good luck and dont worry about venting. I hope your friendship doesnt have to come to an end. I know its painful.
I don't mind the vent at all. I think that sometimes it is necessary to vent. I find it interesting that she used a translation of the bible that actually said pagan since the term wasn't coined until hundreds of years after the new testament was written. In the KJV and most versions it never says pagan (says witch but that was a mistranslation anyways). In most spots where the NIV (which isn't my favorite version btw) where it says pagan it probably comes from the term gentile which, unless she happens to be of Jewish ancestry, she is as well... Frankly she sounds ignorant and if it were me I would drop her like a ton of bricks and move on to better friends.
The truest of friends may question your beliefs, yet even in disagreement can stand by you side with support.Tolerance is a forgotten trait among practictioners of many faiths. You have my sympathy as well as a offer of friendship
BB Mark
You probably should have told them you worship the devil, that way you'd know these responses were coming. :) Unfortunately so many people haven't the foggiest what pagan means, they instead attribute it to common rumors and devil worship. I'm sorry you had to find out your friends were bigots this way.

I find it works best to tell people you are non-denominational... and then they don't care.

I think it makes me mad more then hurts now. I mean what’s 20 years of friendship worth nowadays?
Sweetie, we all have those who are in our lives and mean well...'the road to ruin is paved with good intentions' and there are those who always 'have the answers we should follow'...; listen to your own inner bell and you will never be lost; friends are there to support and to be sounding boards, but we have to travel our own roads, regardless if our beliefs differ from those who seek to 'set us right.'
Wow, hun, I'm sorry. Some people just can't accept their friends for who they really are. I had a similar experience recently and it really broke my heart until I decided to forgive them for their unkind words and let it go. I've lost the friendship but in the process have found other Pagans in my area that I didn't know where here and they're a really great group of women. I'm being really cautious with how much I share with them at this time, just because I'm a little gun-shy now.

Anyway, point being - be who you are and don't let these "friends" make you feel any less. Someday you will find true friends who will stick with you - the ones who will be with you no matter what. The ones who you might not see for days, weeks, or even months at a time yet when you get together again it will be as if only one day has passed.

Huge {{{HUGS!}}} and many blessings!
I so love all you guys!
I think I'd email all these "friends" back with a note saying:

"Well at least now I know who my true friends are, and you are not one of them! A True friend would accept me for who I am, not for what I believe!"
But that's just me.

I have made my practices known to my friend who I have known for over 12 years, and was so grateful that she accepted me no matter what (and even asked if it were possible for me to do a handfasting for her, lol (She's getting married in 2 weeks). I told her I could, but it wouldn't be a legal marriage...she didn't mind, lol).

It's sad when friends let something so individual and personal destroy a friendship. Vent away, it's understood.
This is really sad hun, and I'm sorry for your friends ignorance.. I call it ignorant because your can't friend see that this is your path and doesn't seem to support your path..She doesn't even have to do that,,she could still support your friendship...One of my best-friends of 25yrs is a huge bible thumper..She is still one of my best-friends and i'm happy she has her god in her life ,,he gives her comfort in her time of need..She knows I don't believe in god ,,but supports my believes also..She comes to my circle and brings things for it,, like plants and little trinckets...

Again so sorry!!!


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