Beheading story.


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here are some interesting quotes from the Qur'an: 

2:190 “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”

2:256 “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.”

5:53 “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

6:151 “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.”

8:61 “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.”

In my opinion, terrorists should not be called Muslims.

Why call them terrorists?  Aren't you just following the media's rhetoric?

It's my understanding that the FBI is just treating this like workplace violence.  It was the Media that was looking for a link between Nolen and religious extremism.  He was just reacting to a conflict in the workplace (allegedly racially driven), albeit in a violent way.  This crime is no different than any other murder case in the U.S., the only real difference is, trying to tie it to a Jihad.

It's quite possible that the method of beheading was inspired by what he had seen on television (as a convert to Islam) but that's just his method of choice. He could have easily just shot this person (also inspired by other violent acts in society).

And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...

but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.   And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.  But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" 2:191-193

The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement. 5:33

I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. 8:12

So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them. 9:5

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 9:29

I really don't think verses from the Qur'an, for or against violence, is a good thing to bring in the discussion and that is for several reasons.

Quran isn't the only source used by Muslims, unless, they are Quranist. I do not believe that is the version of Islam he was converted to. If you have information to the contrary please share.

 His religion is rather irrelevant in this case, because he was clearly mentally ill and/or suffering a mental breakdown when he committed this crime.  There is no evidence as yet, that his conversion to Islam had anything to do with it.  

Why does he have to be mentally ill to act out violently against another?

that came out sounding wrong.  My point was his problem was neurological, not religious, as some people including the author seemed to be jumping to the conclusion that his actions were because of his religion.  I was simply attempting to offer the (in my opinion) more likely cause for his seemingly unprovoked actions, but I think I made a bad choice of words.  

I do not know of any evidence of a neurological disorder in this individual.

I never understand why the media always mentions the person's faith. Religion has no reference in this killing nor should be spoked about. It just breeds more ignorance. If I killed a man or woman today it is not because I am Wiccan it I because I must have had a breaking point in my mind and all rational thinking went away.

Same applies to people of other religions if they committed a crime. Even the ones who believe in sacrifices I honestly believe lost all mental capabilities.


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