All Beliefs are Welcome Here!
Hello, I am new to this website and can't wait to engage in all kind of conversation and learn and all that fun stuff. :D Super Excited to be here.... But I have a question that I would like to here answers from all kind of people. About two years ago I was lucky enough to meet the high priest and priestess of Italy. I was super new to the life style so I was in awe of there presence. I felt and would still feel so ignorant in there presence lol. The high priest was sharing with my group all the horrible things they were undergoing in Italy at the time. The catholic church infiltrating and massacring covens and such. What a beautiful country I live in, America. But I long to move around and see the world and I have always wanted to move to Ireland, home to my ancestors. Not to mention the beauty of the whole place in general. Well, me being so young in this path of life, and my daughter is due any day now. I worry about where in this world is safe for me to raise her as a pagan, and not fear for our lives. I would like to hear about some of peoples experience. If it is silly for me to worry? Or is this prosecution of witch still very much alive?
Can't wait to hear from everyone. Thank you!
About two years ago I was lucky enough to meet the high priest and priestess of Italy. I was super new to the life style so I was in awe of there presence. I felt and would still feel so ignorant in there presence lol. The high priest was sharing with my group all the horrible things they were undergoing in Italy at the time. The catholic church infiltrating and massacring covens and such.
WHAT?! Please elaborate on the massacres. We would have had something about it in our news.
Well, me being so young in this path of life, and my daughter is due any day now. I worry about where in this world is safe for me to raise her as a pagan, and not fear for our lives.
How/Why do you fear for your life?
I do not fear for my life now. I am curious as to if I should moving to Ireland. Did you hear about the 8 elders who were burned alive in Africa a couple years back. That didn't make the news either. I was told by the high priest of Italy, that they were coming to America to hide the Priestess. They had covens that were being outed in the community. Leading to some people losing jobs, kids being thrown out of schools and some where kill or "ended up dead somehow" As far as I was told, The Catholic Church is still very powerful in Italy and they were trying to keep the Strega people under control and out of the way. I am not trying to state this as fact, just what I have been told. I posted this to hear others experiences with different cultures and different places around the world.
I answered this somewhere else.
Really I don't blame you to believe a well quilted story, or to not be informed about Europe. But in most parts of Europe, and I include Italy, people keep their beliefs to themselves, which means, it is "private" even if they are Christians. It is seen as vulgar to be very out about the details of your spirituality, except for a few splinter groups (as always) who don't see the embarrassment.
Mostly people around on the British Islands, Ireland, etc, central Europe, Western and Northern Europe, simply don't care what your beliefs are. They want you to separate your garbage, accept the general laws, and to not park your car in an a-social way. But, you will have religion everywhere as part of the culture, however it's at least artsy.
Thank you :] I like your response. I can do Private! lol And Artsy sounds great. Thank you again :]
You are welcome. What I did not say that this does all not apply on small villages, but I think that's normal ^^
Um, anywhere? Why limit yourself based off of silly fear. You'll find people that dislike you no matter where you go. Try not to be so paranoid and fearful of it.
Dislike is not what I am talking about, I am talking about prosecution, excommunication, and harm to myself or my family. I do not fear for someone to dislike me I fear for my children or myself to be hurt or our lively hood to be threatened in other places that might not have something such as freedom of speech or or religion.
"Dislike is not what I am talking about, I am talking about prosecution, excommunication, and harm to myself or my family."
Prosecution is a legal term, like, a side of a court case, I believe you mean persecution, which doesn't happen to pagans in America, or anywhere that isn't Africa.
Excommunication is religious censure from the governing body of your religion.
Honestly, I've been here(PS) a while. The worst thing that's happened is someone got kicked out of their apartment, well actually they got the landlord to drop it when they threatened to sue; doesn't matter, they moved anyway.
This fantasy of being hunted and/or persecuted isn't real.
Gays and Blacks barely have anything to fear anymore, but they're still a much bigger target than we are.
Thank you for you condescending tones, I will keep that in mind. Thanks. You do not need to make someone sound or feel stupid for asking questions or have curious thoughts. I have admitted on my profile and in my article that I am pretty new to this life style and was VERY new at the time of her hearing these stories. For me to want to know if its a valid fear, I wouldn't think makes me stupid, just ignorant and asking for assistance. You do not need to speak as though the topic is common sense or waste your reply correcting my terminology when I do believe, you know what I ment. I am sorry I am coming off a bit aggressive, I am just slightly offended is all. And ask that you try not to talk to me like an idiot, when I am simple asking for a conversation.
Nick is very content focused, he is not condescending. He will always get straight to the topic. If you look at him as someone just addressing the most urgent points with diligence, you will see that his tone is not arrogant.
or waste your reply correcting my terminology when I do believe, you know what I ment
It helped me. I kept being confused about those terms until just now, also because of the misspelling variations.
Ok i see what you mean. Like I told another person, I tend to get a little defensive in these last days awaiting labor. I am sorry. Along with being Young, I am use to being taking for stupid instead of ignorant.. my bad! :]
Don't apologize, enjoy Nicks comments the way they are meant =P